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	<title>Comments on: CNN&#8217;s &#8220;Global Warming: Trick or Truth&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Klement Gottwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klement Gottwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To scheng1:

You hit the nail on the head. We want an ideal weather pattern and we want the government to provide the solution now. 

The bourgeois political classes want to debate. We will act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To scheng1:</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head. We want an ideal weather pattern and we want the government to provide the solution now. </p>
<p>The bourgeois political classes want to debate. We will act.</p>
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		<title>By: scheng1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useless argument.  Even if they want to argue about definition of global warming, it does not change the fact that the weather pattern is less than ideal.  Places expecting rain are having drought, while other areas are having flood.  It is much better to offer solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useless argument.  Even if they want to argue about definition of global warming, it does not change the fact that the weather pattern is less than ideal.  Places expecting rain are having drought, while other areas are having flood.  It is much better to offer solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Tucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Michaels comported himself very well, and Mr. Nye in contrast looked extremely uncomfortable.  The conduct of Ms. Brown was not particularly indicative of bias, but of the sort of silly &quot;let&#039;s all play nice now&quot; patronizing common among the chattering class, as if everything were susceptible to compromise.

Not hardly. Think of the classic &quot;compromise&quot; between a glass of water and a vial of potassium cyanide.

Take a half-and-half &quot;compromise&quot; of those items and you&#039;re dead before your face hits the floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Michaels comported himself very well, and Mr. Nye in contrast looked extremely uncomfortable.  The conduct of Ms. Brown was not particularly indicative of bias, but of the sort of silly &#8220;let&#8217;s all play nice now&#8221; patronizing common among the chattering class, as if everything were susceptible to compromise.</p>
<p>Not hardly. Think of the classic &#8220;compromise&#8221; between a glass of water and a vial of potassium cyanide.</p>
<p>Take a half-and-half &#8220;compromise&#8221; of those items and you&#8217;re dead before your face hits the floor.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Clizbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Clizbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalists used to cultivate sources.  Now we have to rely on whistle-blowers.  
 
Encourage whistleblowers to tell the truth. Spread the word to the IPCC, Penn State, UEA, NASA, NOAA, DOE, and all over. 
Anyone who shares inside information about the AGW scammers is eligible for huge rewards. 
The momentum is with us now. We must organize and press the issue.
Who were the perpetrators of this fraud? From the lowliest, arrogant &quot;scientist&quot; at Penn State, right up to the White House, and the denizens of mansions in Tennessee. 
Metaphorically speaking, heads will roll. 
Al Gore and his minions jet around the world to exotic locales, meeting and plotting how to destroy our economy and way of life, all the while demanding that we peons ride the bus or subway, and turn our thermostats down to 60. 
&quot;Let them eat cake&quot; attitudes are eerily similar to previous elites. The communist elites enjoyed the same privileges and mouthed the same type of platitudes. Where are they now?  
No Consensus--No Warming (NOC-NOW)--Stop the Scam--Halt the IPCC
We have a quickly growing Yahoo Group (CO2 is Plant Food), and a petition (NOC-NOW) that simply spells out a Declaration of Climate Independence, and calls for immediate halt to all political and economic actions based on the fraudulent IPCC &quot;science&quot; and policy.  
The petition will be provided to the US Congress, the White House, the UN, the IPCC, the EU Commission, and other representative bodies involved in &quot;Climate Change&quot; policy deliberations. 
Post the call for whistleblowers in all forums where AGW insiders are present.  
We will be heard. 
Please join the group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood  
And sign the petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/ 
Join Facebook group:  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509
We can stop this scam, together. 
Kent Clizbe
NOC-NOW
Stop the Scam—Halt the IPCC 
No Consensus—No Warming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalists used to cultivate sources.  Now we have to rely on whistle-blowers.  </p>
<p>Encourage whistleblowers to tell the truth. Spread the word to the IPCC, Penn State, UEA, NASA, NOAA, DOE, and all over.<br />
Anyone who shares inside information about the AGW scammers is eligible for huge rewards.<br />
The momentum is with us now. We must organize and press the issue.<br />
Who were the perpetrators of this fraud? From the lowliest, arrogant &#8220;scientist&#8221; at Penn State, right up to the White House, and the denizens of mansions in Tennessee.<br />
Metaphorically speaking, heads will roll.<br />
Al Gore and his minions jet around the world to exotic locales, meeting and plotting how to destroy our economy and way of life, all the while demanding that we peons ride the bus or subway, and turn our thermostats down to 60.<br />
&#8220;Let them eat cake&#8221; attitudes are eerily similar to previous elites. The communist elites enjoyed the same privileges and mouthed the same type of platitudes. Where are they now?<br />
No Consensus&#8211;No Warming (NOC-NOW)&#8211;Stop the Scam&#8211;Halt the IPCC<br />
We have a quickly growing Yahoo Group (CO2 is Plant Food), and a petition (NOC-NOW) that simply spells out a Declaration of Climate Independence, and calls for immediate halt to all political and economic actions based on the fraudulent IPCC &#8220;science&#8221; and policy.<br />
The petition will be provided to the US Congress, the White House, the UN, the IPCC, the EU Commission, and other representative bodies involved in &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; policy deliberations.<br />
Post the call for whistleblowers in all forums where AGW insiders are present.<br />
We will be heard.<br />
Please join the group: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood</a><br />
And sign the petition: <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/</a><br />
Join Facebook group:  <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509</a><br />
We can stop this scam, together.<br />
Kent Clizbe<br />
NOC-NOW<br />
Stop the Scam—Halt the IPCC<br />
No Consensus—No Warming</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yulsman</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2514&#038;cpage=1#comment-5499</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Yulsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you atb for your thoughtful comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you atb for your thoughtful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: atb</title>
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		<dc:creator>atb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it is not in the media&#039;s interest to do as you teach and practise responsible journalism, at least not in the sort term.  It is merely in their short term interest to fan the flames and not solve anything.  An intense debate is much better television than one that actually does anything.  Also, getting into the details of exactly what part of the debate they are covering is also not in their interest.  They think (and to some extent rightly so) that the public&#039;s interest is in the heat of the debate, not in the specifics.  They are afraid that specifics, facts, and logic would bore their audience.  It is probably also true that in the long term their approach actually turns viewers off as is very bad, for them, the public, and for the causes involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it is not in the media&#8217;s interest to do as you teach and practise responsible journalism, at least not in the sort term.  It is merely in their short term interest to fan the flames and not solve anything.  An intense debate is much better television than one that actually does anything.  Also, getting into the details of exactly what part of the debate they are covering is also not in their interest.  They think (and to some extent rightly so) that the public&#8217;s interest is in the heat of the debate, not in the specifics.  They are afraid that specifics, facts, and logic would bore their audience.  It is probably also true that in the long term their approach actually turns viewers off as is very bad, for them, the public, and for the causes involved.</p>
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		<title>By: bcs</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2514&#038;cpage=1#comment-5495</link>
		<dc:creator>bcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media has obviously failed to do any detailed analysis of any of the &#039;skeptic&#039; arguments, even in the wake of the climategate emails.  instead, they publish verbatim the un ipcc press releases and al gore monologues.  a six minute shouting match on cnn wont clear anything up for the average person, but there are real questions about how the co2 &#039;forcing&#039; has been exaggerated in the primary models being touted in copenhagen, so its better than nothing.  just one real article in the new york times discussing MIT prof. lindzen&#039;s arguments would be greatly appreciated, but this kind of stuff is willfully suppressed.  so kudos to campbell brown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media has obviously failed to do any detailed analysis of any of the &#8216;skeptic&#8217; arguments, even in the wake of the climategate emails.  instead, they publish verbatim the un ipcc press releases and al gore monologues.  a six minute shouting match on cnn wont clear anything up for the average person, but there are real questions about how the co2 &#8216;forcing&#8217; has been exaggerated in the primary models being touted in copenhagen, so its better than nothing.  just one real article in the new york times discussing MIT prof. lindzen&#8217;s arguments would be greatly appreciated, but this kind of stuff is willfully suppressed.  so kudos to campbell brown.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Olson</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2514&#038;cpage=1#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we are, three weeks after the &#039;Blessed Hadley Hacking&#039; and eight weeks after initial disclosure to BBC and the Mass Stream Media (MSM) is still in denial.  The science community is not in denial and we can all see the obvious.  On Dec 5th there was a challenge issued to MSM on the Canada Free Press website, titled &quot;High Noon on Main Street&quot; which is an unanswered gauntlet toss at these imposter protectors of freedom.  To quote the CFP article...

Two decades of relentless global warming propoganda has come to an end.  There are plenty of highly qualified spokesmen for the rational explanations of &#039;climate change&#039; waiting to explain reality.  We have had enough.

Its high noon...We&#039;re standing on Main Street....We&#039;re callin you out....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are, three weeks after the &#8216;Blessed Hadley Hacking&#8217; and eight weeks after initial disclosure to BBC and the Mass Stream Media (MSM) is still in denial.  The science community is not in denial and we can all see the obvious.  On Dec 5th there was a challenge issued to MSM on the Canada Free Press website, titled &#8220;High Noon on Main Street&#8221; which is an unanswered gauntlet toss at these imposter protectors of freedom.  To quote the CFP article&#8230;</p>
<p>Two decades of relentless global warming propoganda has come to an end.  There are plenty of highly qualified spokesmen for the rational explanations of &#8216;climate change&#8217; waiting to explain reality.  We have had enough.</p>
<p>Its high noon&#8230;We&#8217;re standing on Main Street&#8230;.We&#8217;re callin you out&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bubbagyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbagyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The warm-monger Nye did score with a sound bite that was punctuated by the &quot;neutral&quot; interviewer. He said, and she swore to it, that the debate had alarmists outnumbering the skeptics, and this is not the case. The media-academia-governmental cabal of scientists (they are not basic scientists, by the way, just applied &quot;climate scientists&quot; to whom physics and statistics seem to be foreign languages) do sing the same tune and walk in lockstep. However, 31,000 scientists signed the skeptic position statement this fall versus 250 &quot;scientists&quot; who wrote the IPCC reports. We must now, since the CRU emails touch all of the warmists, start to discriminate the scientists who are &quot;Feeding At the Government Troughs&quot; (FAGTs) These FAGTs are making millions and millions in grants, special investment status in carbon trading schemes, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The warm-monger Nye did score with a sound bite that was punctuated by the &#8220;neutral&#8221; interviewer. He said, and she swore to it, that the debate had alarmists outnumbering the skeptics, and this is not the case. The media-academia-governmental cabal of scientists (they are not basic scientists, by the way, just applied &#8220;climate scientists&#8221; to whom physics and statistics seem to be foreign languages) do sing the same tune and walk in lockstep. However, 31,000 scientists signed the skeptic position statement this fall versus 250 &#8220;scientists&#8221; who wrote the IPCC reports. We must now, since the CRU emails touch all of the warmists, start to discriminate the scientists who are &#8220;Feeding At the Government Troughs&#8221; (FAGTs) These FAGTs are making millions and millions in grants, special investment status in carbon trading schemes, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Harpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for Patrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for Patrick.</p>
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