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		<title>By: Seth Sicroff</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-6269</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Sicroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my article on this topic at WanderingEducators.com:

http://www.wanderingeducators.com/best/traveling/crying-himalayan-meltdown.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my article on this topic at WanderingEducators.com:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wanderingeducators.com/best/traveling/crying-himalayan-meltdown.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wanderingeducators.com/best/traveling/crying-himalayan-meltdown.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-6034</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It doesn't matter that claims of a collapse of anthropogenic global are simply not supported by multiple streams of scientific evidence, from physics to paleoclimatology to modeling of the climate system."

Dead wrong: that DOES matter.  It means the central animating beliefs held by the 'skeptics' happen to be incorrect.  And that's what responsible journalists should be reporting about this hyped up 'story' -- mostly regurgitation of stuff that was posted on denial blogs months if not years ago --  that the UK press has seized on and run with, that you want to US press to follow suit on.  

Every week/month/year that such lazy, sensationalist reporting sets back action on global warming, should be a matter of shame to journalists.  Every doubt-casting quote from a professional nonscientist AGW 'skeptic' (like your friend Roger Pielke Jr. or the odious Monckton in the UK) paired in he said/she said fashion with the views of bona fide climate scientists, is a small outrage against reason.  

Could be the climate scientists/bloggers at RealClimate agree with me -- 

"So far, so stupid. But even more concerning is the reaction from outside the UK media bubble. Two relatively prominent and respected US commentators – Curtis Brainard at CJR and Tom Yulsman in Colorado – have both bemoaned the fact that the US media (unusually perhaps) has not followed pell-mell into the fact-free abyss of their UK counterparts. Their point apparently seems to be that since much news print is being devoted to a story somewhere, then that story must be worth following."

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/whatevergate/



And contrary to what you wrote, that DOES matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter that claims of a collapse of anthropogenic global are simply not supported by multiple streams of scientific evidence, from physics to paleoclimatology to modeling of the climate system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dead wrong: that DOES matter.  It means the central animating beliefs held by the &#8217;skeptics&#8217; happen to be incorrect.  And that&#8217;s what responsible journalists should be reporting about this hyped up &#8217;story&#8217; &#8212; mostly regurgitation of stuff that was posted on denial blogs months if not years ago &#8212;  that the UK press has seized on and run with, that you want to US press to follow suit on.  </p>
<p>Every week/month/year that such lazy, sensationalist reporting sets back action on global warming, should be a matter of shame to journalists.  Every doubt-casting quote from a professional nonscientist AGW &#8217;skeptic&#8217; (like your friend Roger Pielke Jr. or the odious Monckton in the UK) paired in he said/she said fashion with the views of bona fide climate scientists, is a small outrage against reason.  </p>
<p>Could be the climate scientists/bloggers at RealClimate agree with me &#8212; </p>
<p>&#8220;So far, so stupid. But even more concerning is the reaction from outside the UK media bubble. Two relatively prominent and respected US commentators – Curtis Brainard at CJR and Tom Yulsman in Colorado – have both bemoaned the fact that the US media (unusually perhaps) has not followed pell-mell into the fact-free abyss of their UK counterparts. Their point apparently seems to be that since much news print is being devoted to a story somewhere, then that story must be worth following.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/whatevergate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/whatevergate/</a></p>
<p>And contrary to what you wrote, that DOES matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; The Climate Change Asylum</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-6019</link>
		<dc:creator>Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; The Climate Change Asylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this manner: Two relatively prominent and respected US commentators – Curtis Brainard at CJR and Tom Yulsman in Colorado – have both bemoaned the fact that the US media (unusually perhaps) has not followed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wonk Room &#187; The WonkLine: February 19, 2010</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-6017</link>
		<dc:creator>Wonk Room &#187; The WonkLine: February 19, 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] critics Tom Yulsman and Curtis Brainard complain that the US media isn&#8217;t &#8220;investigating&#8221; the IPCC [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Whatevergate &#171; Global Warming Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-5995</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatevergate &#171; Global Warming Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bubble. Two relatively prominent and respected US commentators &#8211; Curtis Brainard at CJR and Tom Yulsman in Colorado &#8211; have both bemoaned the fact that the US media (unusually perhaps) has not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bubble. Two relatively prominent and respected US commentators &#8211; Curtis Brainard at CJR and Tom Yulsman in Colorado &#8211; have both bemoaned the fact that the US media (unusually perhaps) has not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-5887</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Rabett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you were suck into the vacuum, perhaps you might want to comment on &lt;a href="http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&#38;ContentRecord_id=95a85493-802a-23ad-4090-ba6c1b31b031&#38;Region_id=&#38;Issue_id=" rel="nofollow"&gt;this example of Climate McCarthyism&lt;/a&gt;

"February 03, 2010
Allison C. LernerInspector General
National Science Foundation
Office of Inspector General
4201 Wilson Boulevard
Arlington, VA 22230

Dear Ms. Lerner:

This is a follow-up to my letter of December 2, 2009 and concerns today’s announcement by Penn State University that it has concluded its initial inquiry into possible research misconduct by one of the University’s researchers, Dr. Michael Mann. Penn State’s internal inquiry found further investigation is warranted to determine if Dr. Mann "engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities."

While I firmly agree that Penn State’s investigation is warranted and must commence without delay, there are federal laws and policies implicated in this matter, including your “Research Misconduct” regulations, Title 45 CFR Part 689, that go beyond the scope of Penn State’s inquiry. Therefore, in order to have a full and complete accounting of this matter, I request that you now begin a formal investigation of the allegations against Dr. Mann.

Among other laws and regulations, I ask that you investigate compliance with, or violations of, OMB administrative procedures, 2 CFR Part 215 (OMB Circular A-110), in particular 2 CFR §215.36; Freedom of Information Act 5 U.S.C. §552 (NSF Regulation, 45 CFR Part 612); NSF guidelines implementing OMB information quality guidelines (515 Guidelines); Federal False Claims Act, 18 U.S.C. §287, and 31 U.S.C. §§3729-33; and Federal False Statements Act, 18 U.S.C §1001. Finally, given that Dr. Mann was at the University of Virginia from 1999 until 2005, I also request that you inquire whether his activities at the University of Virginia are implicated in this matter and within your jurisdiction.

Sincerely,

James M. Inhofe
Ranking Member
Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you were suck into the vacuum, perhaps you might want to comment on <a href="http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&amp;ContentRecord_id=95a85493-802a-23ad-4090-ba6c1b31b031&amp;Region_id=&amp;Issue_id=" rel="nofollow">this example of Climate McCarthyism</a></p>
<p>&#8220;February 03, 2010<br />
Allison C. LernerInspector General<br />
National Science Foundation<br />
Office of Inspector General<br />
4201 Wilson Boulevard<br />
Arlington, VA 22230</p>
<p>Dear Ms. Lerner:</p>
<p>This is a follow-up to my letter of December 2, 2009 and concerns today’s announcement by Penn State University that it has concluded its initial inquiry into possible research misconduct by one of the University’s researchers, Dr. Michael Mann. Penn State’s internal inquiry found further investigation is warranted to determine if Dr. Mann &#8220;engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I firmly agree that Penn State’s investigation is warranted and must commence without delay, there are federal laws and policies implicated in this matter, including your “Research Misconduct” regulations, Title 45 CFR Part 689, that go beyond the scope of Penn State’s inquiry. Therefore, in order to have a full and complete accounting of this matter, I request that you now begin a formal investigation of the allegations against Dr. Mann.</p>
<p>Among other laws and regulations, I ask that you investigate compliance with, or violations of, OMB administrative procedures, 2 CFR Part 215 (OMB Circular A-110), in particular 2 CFR §215.36; Freedom of Information Act 5 U.S.C. §552 (NSF Regulation, 45 CFR Part 612); NSF guidelines implementing OMB information quality guidelines (515 Guidelines); Federal False Claims Act, 18 U.S.C. §287, and 31 U.S.C. §§3729-33; and Federal False Statements Act, 18 U.S.C §1001. Finally, given that Dr. Mann was at the University of Virginia from 1999 until 2005, I also request that you inquire whether his activities at the University of Virginia are implicated in this matter and within your jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>James M. Inhofe<br />
Ranking Member<br />
Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-5884</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, answer me this:  How much of that laudable British coverage on the glacier error has been devoted to presenting the correct (and quite alarming) picture of what's going on with the Himalayan glaciers?  Why would we expect the U.S. press to do better?  In my experience, journalists tend to get carried away by such things rather than emphasizing the larger picture, and you don't seem to be an exception.

For example, I just had a look to see what sort of follow-up there had been to the Guardian's "Chinagate" story in the aftermath of the UEA statement.  So far... absolutely nothing.  It looks as if you may need to retract your assertion that Phil Jones will have to face charges.  I also had a look at the Watts post you linked, and near the top of the comments Watts asserts that the Guardian reporters emailed him with an alert that the story would be appearing!  Isn't that special.  In fact, it's almost as special as Daily Mail reporter David Rose's "salute" (yes, he used that word) of McIntyre on the latter's site.    

As we were discussing in the previous post, there's a lot of important science currently not getting covered.  Which of the little that is do you propose to eject from the news hole in favor of political coverage of the IPCC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, answer me this:  How much of that laudable British coverage on the glacier error has been devoted to presenting the correct (and quite alarming) picture of what&#8217;s going on with the Himalayan glaciers?  Why would we expect the U.S. press to do better?  In my experience, journalists tend to get carried away by such things rather than emphasizing the larger picture, and you don&#8217;t seem to be an exception.</p>
<p>For example, I just had a look to see what sort of follow-up there had been to the Guardian&#8217;s &#8220;Chinagate&#8221; story in the aftermath of the UEA statement.  So far&#8230; absolutely nothing.  It looks as if you may need to retract your assertion that Phil Jones will have to face charges.  I also had a look at the Watts post you linked, and near the top of the comments Watts asserts that the Guardian reporters emailed him with an alert that the story would be appearing!  Isn&#8217;t that special.  In fact, it&#8217;s almost as special as Daily Mail reporter David Rose&#8217;s &#8220;salute&#8221; (yes, he used that word) of McIntyre on the latter&#8217;s site.    </p>
<p>As we were discussing in the previous post, there&#8217;s a lot of important science currently not getting covered.  Which of the little that is do you propose to eject from the news hole in favor of political coverage of the IPCC?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yulsman</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2797&cpage=1#comment-5883</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Yulsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If what has been claimed is not supported by the facts, or has been exaggerated for political effect, then that is what journalists should report. Instead, here in the United States we have near silence. So all Americans are hearing is what leaks over The Pond from the U.K., partially through the bloviators on CNN (dreadful) and Fox News (despicable). My point is that journalists need to be reporting this story and following it WHEREVER the facts lead. Nothing more, nothing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what has been claimed is not supported by the facts, or has been exaggerated for political effect, then that is what journalists should report. Instead, here in the United States we have near silence. So all Americans are hearing is what leaks over The Pond from the U.K., partially through the bloviators on CNN (dreadful) and Fox News (despicable). My point is that journalists need to be reporting this story and following it WHEREVER the facts lead. Nothing more, nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, the glacier error was indeed an error, but it's already gotten far more attention than it deserved.  It wasn't just the Times editors who thought the WG2 report wasn't very important when it was published.  Maybe you could explain why, if such an error really is so important, it took 2-1/2 years for it to be noticed by the press?   

As for RP Jr., we're talking about somebody with a long history of complaining about being misrepresented by others, including on this very issue.  You knew that, right?  In any case I have the impression you haven't had a look at the considerable body of other material that's appeared on the web since Roger's planted story ran.  You could start with Tim's &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/02/leakegate_scandal_grows.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on the subject and then follow the links, and don't miss the IPCC's own &lt;a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/presentations/statement_25_01_2010.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;refutation&lt;/a&gt;.  

Summing up, the glacier story is real but has gotten more attention than it deserves, and the rest may be the worst example of misguided pack journalism since the run-up to the Iraq war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, the glacier error was indeed an error, but it&#8217;s already gotten far more attention than it deserved.  It wasn&#8217;t just the Times editors who thought the WG2 report wasn&#8217;t very important when it was published.  Maybe you could explain why, if such an error really is so important, it took 2-1/2 years for it to be noticed by the press?   </p>
<p>As for RP Jr., we&#8217;re talking about somebody with a long history of complaining about being misrepresented by others, including on this very issue.  You knew that, right?  In any case I have the impression you haven&#8217;t had a look at the considerable body of other material that&#8217;s appeared on the web since Roger&#8217;s planted story ran.  You could start with Tim&#8217;s <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/02/leakegate_scandal_grows.php" rel="nofollow">post</a> on the subject and then follow the links, and don&#8217;t miss the IPCC&#8217;s own <a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/presentations/statement_25_01_2010.pdf" rel="nofollow">refutation</a>.  </p>
<p>Summing up, the glacier story is real but has gotten more attention than it deserves, and the rest may be the worst example of misguided pack journalism since the run-up to the Iraq war.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yulsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Yulsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim: There's plenty of bad, biased reporting to go around, particularly coming out of the U.K. and on American television. (I've written a lot about that here at CEJournal.) But are you suggesting that the Himalayan glacier issue and the IPCC's misrepresentation of Roger Pielke, Jr.'s work on disasters and climate change are just "alleged" errors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: There&#8217;s plenty of bad, biased reporting to go around, particularly coming out of the U.K. and on American television. (I&#8217;ve written a lot about that here at CEJournal.) But are you suggesting that the Himalayan glacier issue and the IPCC&#8217;s misrepresentation of Roger Pielke, Jr.&#8217;s work on disasters and climate change are just &#8220;alleged&#8221; errors?</p>
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