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	<title>Comments on: Daniel Sarewitz: Time to get climate politics right</title>
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		<title>By: The Problem with Politics: Part One &#171; The Policy Lass</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Problem with Politics: Part One &#171; The Policy Lass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Roger Pilke Jr.&#8217;s blog post The Trouble with Climate Science and at Center for Environmental Journalism&#8217;s CE Journal, Sarewitz argues further clarity on the science of climate change / global warming will not help to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Roger Pilke Jr.&#8217;s blog post The Trouble with Climate Science and at Center for Environmental Journalism&#8217;s CE Journal, Sarewitz argues further clarity on the science of climate change / global warming will not help to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Zulauf</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-6184</link>
		<dc:creator>John Zulauf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is critical that we also not &quot;pick winners&quot; in any political approach.  This invites corruption and defeats the necessarily Darwinian winnowing process.  The gov&#039;t can provide basic research, ideally in partnership with industry or industry consortia.  

The gov&#039;t &quot;picked winners&quot; in investing in corn ethanol, disqualifying and discouraging solutions like butanol, algae, and the like.  This is a losing proposition -- wasted tax dollars and no solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is critical that we also not &#8220;pick winners&#8221; in any political approach.  This invites corruption and defeats the necessarily Darwinian winnowing process.  The gov&#8217;t can provide basic research, ideally in partnership with industry or industry consortia.  </p>
<p>The gov&#8217;t &#8220;picked winners&#8221; in investing in corn ethanol, disqualifying and discouraging solutions like butanol, algae, and the like.  This is a losing proposition &#8212; wasted tax dollars and no solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Should Scientists Fight Heat or Stick to Data? - Dot Earth Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should Scientists Fight Heat or Stick to Data? - Dot Earth Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] p.m. &#124; Updated: There&#8217;s more on various possible roles and stances for scientists at the Center for Environmental Journalism blog. There&#8217;s more in USA Today on whether climate scientists&#8217; concerns about their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] p.m. | Updated: There&#8217;s more on various possible roles and stances for scientists at the Center for Environmental Journalism blog. There&#8217;s more in USA Today on whether climate scientists&#8217; concerns about their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-6167</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Bloom,

If the technology exists and it is not being implemented it is because the technology is not economically viable. No amount of wishful thinking disguised as government policy is going to change this nor will any crisis. 

What people today forget is the society we have today was built with cheap energy. Without 90% of us would still be tending cabbages and helpless to protect ourselves against the capriciousness of the weather. 

We need a replacement energy source that costs the same as what we are currently using before there will be any shift from fossil fuels. Politicians that try to force people use more expensive energy sources will not be able to keep their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Bloom,</p>
<p>If the technology exists and it is not being implemented it is because the technology is not economically viable. No amount of wishful thinking disguised as government policy is going to change this nor will any crisis. </p>
<p>What people today forget is the society we have today was built with cheap energy. Without 90% of us would still be tending cabbages and helpless to protect ourselves against the capriciousness of the weather. </p>
<p>We need a replacement energy source that costs the same as what we are currently using before there will be any shift from fossil fuels. Politicians that try to force people use more expensive energy sources will not be able to keep their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-6164</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I remain mystified as to the fascination many journalists have for this sort of wishful thinking.  I&#039;m still waiting for some evidence that available technology, rather than a lack of sufficient will to implement technology that already exists, constitutes a limit to progress.  Until then, I&#039;ll continue to believe that our society won&#039;t start to make changes on the needed scale absent some sort of crisis. 

Note that we had a suitable crisis in the aftermath of 9/11, albeit related to security rather than climate, and rather than take steps toward energy security the U.S. a) went shopping and b) moved to directly secure oil supplies in the Middle East.  Doing otherwise would have made much more sense for the country as a whole, but entrenched interests wanted to go in a different direction.  To be taken seriously, people like Pielke and Sarewitz need to explain how that happened and how in the absence of a crisis something different can happen relative to climate.  

Of course new energy technology is being developed anyway and over a period of time will get adopted even without a crisis, but not quickly enough relative to the climate need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I remain mystified as to the fascination many journalists have for this sort of wishful thinking.  I&#8217;m still waiting for some evidence that available technology, rather than a lack of sufficient will to implement technology that already exists, constitutes a limit to progress.  Until then, I&#8217;ll continue to believe that our society won&#8217;t start to make changes on the needed scale absent some sort of crisis. </p>
<p>Note that we had a suitable crisis in the aftermath of 9/11, albeit related to security rather than climate, and rather than take steps toward energy security the U.S. a) went shopping and b) moved to directly secure oil supplies in the Middle East.  Doing otherwise would have made much more sense for the country as a whole, but entrenched interests wanted to go in a different direction.  To be taken seriously, people like Pielke and Sarewitz need to explain how that happened and how in the absence of a crisis something different can happen relative to climate.  </p>
<p>Of course new energy technology is being developed anyway and over a period of time will get adopted even without a crisis, but not quickly enough relative to the climate need.</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s not the science. It&#8217;s the politics &#171; A Man With A Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s not the science. It&#8217;s the politics &#171; A Man With A Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daniel Sarewitz: Time to get climate politics right [Via CEJournal]  A month or so ago, reporting on global warming seemed focused on the details of Climategate, the IPCC’s Himalayan glacier imbroglio, and wild winter weather. Now, reporting has shifted to a focus on the backlash against science and how scientists are struggling to cope with it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Daniel Sarewitz: Time to get climate politics right [Via CEJournal]  A month or so ago, reporting on global warming seemed focused on the details of Climategate, the IPCC’s Himalayan glacier imbroglio, and wild winter weather. Now, reporting has shifted to a focus on the backlash against science and how scientists are struggling to cope with it. [...]</p>
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