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		<title>By: William Pentland</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9335</link>
		<dc:creator>William Pentland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tom,

I am the author of the article you have unfairly criticized in this blog post. You have no reasonable basis to conflate my views with those of Larry Bell.  I have worked at Forbes for several years. There is no editorial policy on global warming -- official or unofficial.  If there were an institutional policy regarding global warming, I would never have been asked to write for Forbes. I work for an environmental advocacy organization that promotes a strong policy response to the very real threat of global warming.

Like it or not, I am on your side of the political divide -- NOT Larry Bell&#039;s.  I find it disappointing that you reflexively dismiss anyone who expresses concerns about emerging political currents in climate science as a &quot;climate skeptic.&quot;  This is unfair, petty and counter productive.  

While you may not appreciate it, the issue I raised about democracy and climate change is extremely important. A growing number of climate scientists have lost confidence that the political process will establish binding emissions cuts soon enough to avert dangerous climate change, which has led many to support  geoengineering.  

Shearman&#039;s book expressed the political perspective that I believe is implicitly driving many highly-respected climate scientists to embrace  geoengineering.  These sentiments are similarly expressed in the late Stephen Schneider&#039;s book &quot;Science As A Contact Sport.&quot; Other giants of climate science have said the same in scores of articles and interviews.        

I wish you would have invested half as much time addressing the substance of my concerns rather than trying to make me look stupid.  I am not stupid but I am concerned about the future of our planet.  Are you?
 

Best regards,
Bill Pentland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom,</p>
<p>I am the author of the article you have unfairly criticized in this blog post. You have no reasonable basis to conflate my views with those of Larry Bell.  I have worked at Forbes for several years. There is no editorial policy on global warming &#8212; official or unofficial.  If there were an institutional policy regarding global warming, I would never have been asked to write for Forbes. I work for an environmental advocacy organization that promotes a strong policy response to the very real threat of global warming.</p>
<p>Like it or not, I am on your side of the political divide &#8212; NOT Larry Bell&#8217;s.  I find it disappointing that you reflexively dismiss anyone who expresses concerns about emerging political currents in climate science as a &#8220;climate skeptic.&#8221;  This is unfair, petty and counter productive.  </p>
<p>While you may not appreciate it, the issue I raised about democracy and climate change is extremely important. A growing number of climate scientists have lost confidence that the political process will establish binding emissions cuts soon enough to avert dangerous climate change, which has led many to support  geoengineering.  </p>
<p>Shearman&#8217;s book expressed the political perspective that I believe is implicitly driving many highly-respected climate scientists to embrace  geoengineering.  These sentiments are similarly expressed in the late Stephen Schneider&#8217;s book &#8220;Science As A Contact Sport.&#8221; Other giants of climate science have said the same in scores of articles and interviews.        </p>
<p>I wish you would have invested half as much time addressing the substance of my concerns rather than trying to make me look stupid.  I am not stupid but I am concerned about the future of our planet.  Are you?</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Bill Pentland</p>
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		<title>By: Climate change journalism: massacring the messengers &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9188</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate change journalism: massacring the messengers &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] confirms Forbes&#8217; (10) reputation as clueless ideologically driven twonks with &#8220;There they go again.&#8221; [Aside: if anyone cares, background on David Shearman may be found [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] confirms Forbes&#8217; (10) reputation as clueless ideologically driven twonks with &#8220;There they go again.&#8221; [Aside: if anyone cares, background on David Shearman may be found [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tomasyn</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9137</link>
		<dc:creator>tomasyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hunter - so having &#039;enviro-extremist&#039; views makes you a climate scientist? and here I thought it involved hard stuff like math and statistics, and you know, climate science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ hunter &#8211; so having &#8216;enviro-extremist&#8217; views makes you a climate scientist? and here I thought it involved hard stuff like math and statistics, and you know, climate science.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Rabett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow Eli to explain this to you.  It is clear that if we don&#039;t do anything serious about atmospheric carbon contamination there are going to be seriously huge global disasters in the later part of this century and certainly beyond.  

Dealing with those problems is going to require fleets of black helicopters, which is why people like Eli advocate strong action now to protect liberty in the future.  If you doubt this, go read Durant or anyone else on what happened to governance after Rome fell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow Eli to explain this to you.  It is clear that if we don&#8217;t do anything serious about atmospheric carbon contamination there are going to be seriously huge global disasters in the later part of this century and certainly beyond.  </p>
<p>Dealing with those problems is going to require fleets of black helicopters, which is why people like Eli advocate strong action now to protect liberty in the future.  If you doubt this, go read Durant or anyone else on what happened to governance after Rome fell.</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9116</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, by the way, since you have not red the book, have you at least read the Amazon link on it? There was more than one author. Both are nice lefty enviro extremists. 
http://www.amazon.com/Climate-Challenge-Democracy-Politics-Environment/dp/031334504X
They specifically call for a totalitarian state to handle what you believe is a worldwide crisis.
Why did you pick on just one of the authors?
Both are multi-book authors of enviro-extremist views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, by the way, since you have not red the book, have you at least read the Amazon link on it? There was more than one author. Both are nice lefty enviro extremists.<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Climate-Challenge-Democracy-Politics-Environment/dp/031334504X" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Climate-Challenge-Democracy-Politics-Environment/dp/031334504X</a><br />
They specifically call for a totalitarian state to handle what you believe is a worldwide crisis.<br />
Why did you pick on just one of the authors?<br />
Both are multi-book authors of enviro-extremist views.</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagreeing with your religious views is not a howler.
Particularly views that are showing up as less-and-less connected to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagreeing with your religious views is not a howler.<br />
Particularly views that are showing up as less-and-less connected to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9107</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sensing a push by the corporate capitalists to secure policies that promote energy profits at the expense of the environment.  China and India are growing huge energy needs, particularly gasoline and coal.  The capitalists are legitimately fearful that climate change policies in the US would limit their access to the cheap fuels and massive profits over the next decades.  Forestalling those policies is their MO, therefore we have Forbes, WSJ, NYT, Fox etc., pushing hard now (with the GOP House) to resist any substantive legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sensing a push by the corporate capitalists to secure policies that promote energy profits at the expense of the environment.  China and India are growing huge energy needs, particularly gasoline and coal.  The capitalists are legitimately fearful that climate change policies in the US would limit their access to the cheap fuels and massive profits over the next decades.  Forestalling those policies is their MO, therefore we have Forbes, WSJ, NYT, Fox etc., pushing hard now (with the GOP House) to resist any substantive legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Forbes is not a credible source for climate information &#124; Ace Campaign</title>
		<link>http://www.cejournal.net/?p=4830&#038;cpage=1#comment-9095</link>
		<dc:creator>Forbes is not a credible source for climate information &#124; Ace Campaign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] false;});});  Font size:    There they go again[Via CEJournal]I’m talking about Forbes magazine, which today published another howlerYesterday, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention There they go again &#124; CEJournal -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention There they go again &#124; CEJournal -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by jfleck, John S. Wilkins. John S. Wilkins said: Argumentum ab blurbum RT @yulsman: Forbes: &quot;growing number&quot; of #climate scientists promote Nazi-like authoritarianism http://bit.ly/epm202 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by jfleck, John S. Wilkins. John S. Wilkins said: Argumentum ab blurbum RT @yulsman: Forbes: &quot;growing number&quot; of #climate scientists promote Nazi-like authoritarianism <a href="http://bit.ly/epm202" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/epm202</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Revkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Revkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 03:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep at it, Tom...  Wack Wack.. Recruit this guy: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0n8N98mpes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep at it, Tom&#8230;  Wack Wack.. Recruit this guy:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0n8N98mpes" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0n8N98mpes</a></p>
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